Fitness Quest needs to do a little "in their customers' shoes" thought. My wife recently purchased an elliptical trainer from these folks, and overall our experience has been good. However, the unit itself has a think grease over some of the parts that are in the 95+ plus pound box. I pulled all of the stuff out of the box, got this grease on my hands and pants, swore out loud, then opened the manual which was in the middle of the box to be warned "warning, some items have grease so be careful." I would like to use some of the unassembled parts to ask the decision maker on that issue why they didn't say on the OUTSIDE of the box. I believe the arms would make fine beat-down weaponry.